[Coin-discuss] [Coin-announce] Announcing the Coin Bazaar project

[Hart, William E]

FWIW, I'm not inclined to rename 'Coin Bazaar'.  This is a collection of miscellaneous projects related to COIN-OR, but alternative names like 'Coin Miscellaneous' were equally unpalatable.  

The documentation on the COIN-OR Download page is pretty clear about how codes are version controlled in this project.

--Bill




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Saltzman [mailto:mjs at clemson.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 1:43 PM
> To: Gaetano Mendola
> Cc: Alpár Jüttner; Discussions about open source software for
> Operations Research; Hart, William E
> Subject: Re: [Coin-announce] [Coin-discuss] Announcing the Coin Bazaar
> project
> 
> On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 19:36 +0100, Gaetano Mendola wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Alpár Jüttner <alpar at cs.elte.hu>
> wrote:
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > I really like the idea of this Coin Bazaar project. Let me add two
> > > comments, however.
> > >
> > > Firstly, the name is probably not the best, because there is a
> > > distributed version control system (DVCS) called Bazaar
> > > (http://bazaar.canonical.com/en/), therefore many people will
> falsely
> > > assume that this project is about replacing SVN to a Bazaar.
> >
> > Isn't ? I tought that area would use Bazaar indeed instead of SVN!
> > So my +1 to reconsider the name.
> 
> I will leave this question to the project manager.  I conjecture that
> the name of the project and the name of the VCS share their origins in
> Eric Raymond's "The Cathedral and the Bazaar".  Unfortunately, one
> can't
> reserve a common English word entirely to a single purpose (especially
> a
> product name--even an open-source product).  Even COIN refers to two
> open-source projects: COIN-OR and COIN 3D.  And you occasionally see
> some poor confused soul on the mailing lists.
> 
> >
> > > Secondly, I strongly suggest considering this kind of change in the
> > > version management, probably for the whole COIN-OR project in the
> long
> > > run. (Though it shouldn't be Bazaar, as it is clearly well behind
> > > Mercurial and GIT, the two other players on this market.)
> >
> > I agree, better may be mercurial, easier than GIT.
> 
> We always have our eyes out for ways to improve the infrastructure
> technology at COIN-OR.  I doubt it would be possible to change the
> entire collection away from Subversion, as many of the project managers
> are used to Subversion and probably not that interested in learning a
> whole new VCS technology.  We also have the problem that everyone
> involved in maintaining the infrastructure also has a day job, and
> there
> are limits to the number of different services we can afford the time
> to
> maintain.  But I've been interested in looking at DVCS systems, and
> I'll
> keep your suggestions in mind.
> 
> Thanks for your comments.
> 
> >
> > Regards
> > Gaetano Mendola
> >
> 
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> 
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