<div dir="ltr">Hi Miles,<div><br></div><div>I'm glad to hear this, and I agree that MUMPS+MPI users can compile on their own.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm starting the process to switch to sequential MUMPS (<a href="https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=763612">https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=763612</a>). If anyone is opposed to this please speak up soon!</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Miles Lubin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:miles.lubin@gmail.com" target="_blank">miles.lubin@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Greg,<div><br></div><div>As the maintainer of a Clp, Cbc, and Symphony in debian, my vote is for moving to serial MUMPS. The benefits for the majority of users in terms of not needing to deal with MPI-related issues, which can make the Ipopt package unusable, outweigh any dubious gains that might be achieved by using parallel MUMPS (as Damien's experience shows). Anyone who's experimenting with MUMPS+MPI can surely compile Ipopt on their own.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Miles</div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:27 AM, Greg Horn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gregmainland@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregmainland@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>Just to clarify, we are considering making the debian and ubuntu ipopt packages (apt-get install coinor-libipopt) use serial MUMPS instead of parallel. We don't know of anyone exploiting the MPI parallelism. So speak up if you use parallel MUMPS or if you know anyone who does!</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Tony Kelman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kelman@berkeley.edu" target="_blank">kelman@berkeley.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>
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<div>This is an issue that has come up a few times before on the list,
usually</div>
<div>with respect to distribution/Homebrew packages wanting to link Ipopt
to</div>
<div>the MPI version of Mumps. I would like to get feedback from anyone on
the</div>
<div>list who can provide a counterexample to my understanding of current</div>
<div>functionality. The question is:</div>
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<div>Has anyone successfully used the MPI parallel version of MUMPS in</div>
<div>combination with Ipopt? Specifically I’m asking about the mainline</div>
<div>supported release versions of Ipopt, not the work that happened
several</div>
<div>years ago in the experimental distributed-memory parallel branch</div>
<div><a href="https://projects.coin-or.org/Ipopt/browser/branches/parallel" target="_blank">https://projects.coin-or.org/Ipopt/browser/branches/parallel</a>
. I know</div>
<div>it’s possible to use the MPI version of MUMPS with a single process
just</div>
<div>fine, or use MPI to parallelize user function evaluations, or run
separate</div>
<div>completely independent instances of Ipopt solving different
optimization</div>
<div>problems simultaneously. What I’m asking about is running the MUMPS
linear</div>
<div>solver across multiple processes with MPI and achieving measured
parallel</div>
<div>speedup on a single optimization problem.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I have done this for the multithreaded solvers
WSMP/MA86/MA97/Pardiso,</div>
<div>or to a limited extent via multithreaded BLAS, but never personally
with</div>
<div>MPI MUMPS. I’d like to find out whether it has been done before, in
case</div>
<div>it is possible but just complicated to do. If you’ve tried to do this
but</div>
<div>failed, I'd be interested to hear how far you got.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Parts of Ipopt outside of MUMPS are not MPI-aware, so running
multiple</div>
<div>copies of an ipopt executable with mpirun will probably duplicate all</div>
<div>computations outside of the linear solver. I’m not actually sure what
would</div>
<div>happen if each copy of ipopt thinks it’s solving an entire
optimization</div>
<div>problem but MUMPS is trying to decompose the linear system over MPI.</div>
<div>I’d be surprised if it worked, but also happy to be proven wrong
here.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Thanks in advance,</div>
<div>Tony</div>
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